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the united states senate, or congress. but the fact is they're not a permanent member of the council. >> uh-huh. >> we are. and as a permanent member of council, in fact, i think we're the only permanent member. and so we stand in a very special status that we are not currently able to exercise, and i think with respect to the senator's fears, and other fears, what you're trying to protect is something that would go against the interests of our country. that's what we need to be able to protect. if sudan votes to do something or blocks us from doing something that we're interested in doing, then there are plenty of other avenues of recourse for that, too. >> uh-huh. >> but if you're dealing with the oceans and dealing with this question of royalties and other things, the fact that we would preserve the right to protect our interests, i think what the senator and others have raised as an issue is, they don't want money going to dictators. they don't want money going to bad actor countries. we can block that. we can block that until the cows come home. and so i think we can be protected. so,
, and comprehensive discussion about whether the united states of america should join the law of the sea convention. i want to underscore the word comprehensive. i've heard from countless military and business leaders for some period of time who believe it is urgent that we ratify this treaty. and i've also spoken with senators and some groups who oppose the treaty. i intend to make certain that the committee does its job properly and thoroughly. we will hear from all sides and we will ask all the questions as we begin the process of educational hearings on this issue. the first since 2007. the senate has seen a fair number of new members elected since then from both sides of the aisle. and our committee also has new members. so i think a thorough examination of the treaty is especially timely and relevant. some of us have had the opportunity in the past to the evaluate this treaty and even to vote on it in this committee. i am personally deeply supportive of it, and i believe it is now more urgent than ever that we ratify it because to remain outside of it is fundamentally directly counter to the bes
billion that would be royalties that would be paid to the isa as "pos opposed to the united states and of course go to the organization in kingston, jamaica for redistribution to the developing world. and this is the first time in history that an international organization, the u.n. in this case, would possess taxing authority over this country. now, i've heard the veto argument. discussed by one of the other members here. i think the secretary ritsch. it's really not too important to discuss that, because there are two entities that would make that determination. you have the council, the 36th-member council, the assembly, to make these decisions, but the point is, under article 160, it's going to cost us. well, let's see. yeah. under article 82, payments and contributions shall be made annually rp to all production at a site after this period's time. what we're saying, it's going to be paid regardless of where you think it should go or where you think it is going to go. the second thing i want to kov herb is the environmental and, we in this, for the ten years now have rejected i
nautical miles from shore. the relevant area for the united states is probably more than 1.5 times the size of texas. in fact, we believe it could be considerably larger. u.s. oil and gas companies are now ready, willing, and able to explore this area. but they have made it clear to us that they need the maximum level of international legal certainty before they will or could make the substantial investments. and we believe create many jobs in doing so, needed to extract these far offshore resources. if we were a party to the convention, we would gain international recognition of our sovereign rights, including by using the convention's procedures and therefore, be able to give our oil and gas companies this legal certainty. staying outside the convention, we simply cannot. the second development concerns deep seabed mining which takes place in that part of the ocean floor that is beyond any country's jurisdiction. now, for years, technological challenges meant that deep seabed mining was only theoretical. today's advances make it very real. but it's also very expense of. and before any com
of the united states that we have to c acede to this convention. we say that every time we argue with iran, with north korea. we argue on the base that they're not abiding by international rules. they're not abiding by the international standards that we've established. and here we are, trying to make the same argument with regards to navigation and we aren't even a member of the convention. that's the reason. >> thank you. >> let me just say, since there are a few seconds left, senator lugar, that neither president truman's proclamation or any act of congress has ever defined the outer edge of the continental shelf of the united states. other countries can prohibit the united states from coming in to an esc. we can't, because we're not party to the treaty. the only way to protect that outside of this is to have -- to a acede to the treaty. so, there are further reasons in answer to mr. fuller. we'll have mr. fuller in here and others who have oppose it to have a chance to explore this. senator hernandez? >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you for beginning this series of hearings, which i
representative for the korean peninsula. the six-party talks will take place. >> both china and the united states really have the same fundamental interests when it comes to the peninsula and in north korea, which is peace, stability and the pursuit of denuclearization. >> davies will head to tokyo later in the day with talks with japanese officials. >>> a japanese research institute said satellite images show that north korea is building a new launchpad in the country's northeast. researchers at johns hopkins university announced the results of their analysis of the photos of the site taken on april 29th. the researchers say the work to upgrade the site began last summer. they say the images show the concrete foundations of a launchpad and buildings designed to enclose the fuel. they also say a large structure apparently intended for assembling rockets has been completed in a former residential area near the site. the institute said the upgrade is aimed at launching test launch also. it predicts the new facilities could be operational in four years. >>> south korean defense authorities want to b
for san francisco to continue to be one of the most educated cities in the united states. we are proud to have them here this evening. we would like to thank mayor lee. we would like to thank our friends with the fund and also the san francisco giants for allowing us to show you our all- star team this evening. we also want to thank each and everyone of you for trusting your children to us every single day. i can tell you with complete confidence that they are in very, very good hands. thank you on behalf of the 56,000 students in san francisco. thank you and congratulations to our all-star team, our teachers. >> thank you so much. how about a big round of applause as we celebrate our teachers tonight? [applause] >> good evening, and welcome to tonight's meeting of the commonwealth club of california, the place where you are in the know. >> you just said this is where we came in. >> is this a trick? you can find us on the internet. i am from kcbs radio. your moderator. this is part of the good lit series. now it is my pleasure to introduce our special guest today, d and alan zweibel. t
award someday. the girl behind you could be a future president of the united states or even, better than that, the mayor of new york city. the guy sitting to your right could be a future nobel laureate. okay, maybe not the guy to your right but certainly the one to your left. >> memorial day weekend watch commencement speeches on c-span. politicians, white house officials and business leaders share their thoughts with the graduating class of 2012. >>> in a few moments, tuesday's pentagon briefing. in a half hour, a forum on how the media covers china. then a look at the national flood insurance program. and later, a small business administration discussion on the role of entrepreneurs. >>> several live events to tell you about tomorrow morning. secretary of state hillary clinton, defense secretary leon panetta, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, testified before the senate foreign relations committee on the relationship between the law of the sea convention and national security. that's here on c-span3 at 10:00 eastern. at 10:30 a.m. eastern, on our co
blow to the ties between the united states and pakistan. a pakistani court has sentenced the doctor who helped the c.i.a. take out osama bin laden to more than 30 years in prison. our friends, the pakistanis, and, a woman called 9-1-1 after her husband stops breathing. but a dispatcher was asleep and snoring. we will play the recorded call for you unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." >> but, first from fox at 3:00, facebook. the public offering was one of the most anticipated and now the most controversial. if not among the biggest flops. the company is dealing with a series of negative developments and lawsuits and investigations. less than a week after the troubled debut on wall street, facebook is being sued. shareholders claims the social network and the big bank underwriters misled them by selling only a select few that they downgraded the earnings forecast. the representatives say the suit is "without merit." but federal regulators are also looking into possible violations and a senate panel is also reviewing the situation. the stock is actually picking up
is that the council should identify firms that could pose a financial threat to the stability of the united states. the council has stated that the threat to the financial stability is impairment of financial mediation or financial activity could have a real effect on the real economy. that is the standard on which a designation ultimately will be based. >> one of the concerns i have is with the orderly liquidation of authority. we tried to go with an enhanced bankruptcy look on this and failed. so the early liquidation rests on fdic. when you're looking at a nonback entity. the fdic is more accustomed to working with banking entities. i want some conference and i'm sure you can mant make a judgment statement that the fdic has the expertise again to make judgments when trying to unwind nonbank institutions? is that a concern? >> well, we have the treasury department and other fsoc members involved in any orderly liquidation authority, have been working with the fdic to understand what their approach will be to designate, i'm sorry, putting in a film in a normal significant but ultimately, that's a
, and the united states. many of the top ten nations are in northern europe. might be time for a trip to northern yoirp. that does it for this business hour. i'll leave you with the market figures. >>> representatives from iran and six other countries will resume talks on iran's nuclear program in baghdad. the european union's foreign policy chief will be representing world powers during the talks. she and other officials are expected to tell iranian nuclear negotiator that iran should stop producing 20% enriched uranium. some countries fear that iran wants to use this uranium to accelerate the process of developing nuclear weapons. western negotiate eshs are also likely to urge iran to close some underground nuclear related facilities. in return iranian officials are to ask their counterparts to lift the sanctions. the talks were in istanbul in april after 15 months of delocks. both sides said the first round was forward looking. meanwhile, the international atomic energy agency and iran have agreed on ways to verify the country's suspected nuclear arms development. iaea dir
and the united states and five other world powers over the nuclear program. previous talks have gone nowhere but yesterday the united nations chief said he expect as deal with iran to restart the nuclear inspections. and, today in baghdad, where they are holding the meetings, officials suggested a breakthrough is possible. the united states wants iran to stop enriching uranium, a process that is key to making atomic weapons. of course iran claims the nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. and now, the news from baghdad. steve? >>reporter: the talks began at noon local time here in baghdad and they are still going on after the 10:00 p.m. hour. a fight over the future of iran's nuclear program. and, really, the fight at the moment being waged between diplomats. on one side you have diplomats from the six major powers: the united states, u.k., france, germany, china and russia. they are focused on a few goals including stopping the production of enriched morning -- uranium and the concentration because if it is too high it can be used as fuel for nuclear weapons. and iran on the other s
of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the presiding officer: the clerk will read a communication to the senate. the clerk: washington, d.c., may 23, 2012. to the senate: under the provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable kirsten e. gillibrand, a senator from the state of new york, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: the majority leader. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: motion to proceed to calendar number 400, s. 3187, a bill to amend the federal food, drug and cosmetic act, and so forth and for other purposes. mr. reid: we are now on the motion to proceed to the f.d.a. user fees bill. the republicans will control the first half-hour, the majority the second half-hour. we're working on an agreement to consider amendments to the f.d.a. bill. we're close to being able to finalize that. we hope to get on an agreement and avoid filing cloture on t
should be the international regime for dealing with some of these issues? and the united states, of course, is perhaps the most significant player in these issues. and yet our interests are not being represented as these types of changes being debated. could you elaborate a little bit more as to what type of discussions are currently taking place that we truly are not part of? not involved as far as having our representative at the table during these discussions that very much could affect -- u.s. companies could affect the commercial operations, could affect all the interests that you mentioned. >> senator, you're absolutely right. with respect to demarcating, asserting sovereign jurisdiction over continental shelf, that is ongoing. countries are doing that, as has been already said, we stand to gain more than any country in the world and we have not done so. going beyond the extended continental shelf, which is of great importance to us, are the rules on deep sea bed mining. that will influence whether a number of the supporters of the treaty, senator kerry mentioned one, lock
it, protecting the president of the united states and other high officials of our government, as well as foreign leaders who visit the united states. that reputation, a great reputation, was badly stained last month won 11 secret service employees engaged in at night of heavy drinking in cartagena, colombia, which ended with them taking foreign nationals, women, back to their hotel rooms. we have called this hearing as part of our committee's responsibility to oversee the functions of the federal government, particularly those within the department of homeland security the united states secret service agents. there are three things we hope to accomplish today, and in our committee's ongoing investigation. first, we want to get the facts about what precisely happened in cartagena, and where the secret service's own investigation of cartagena at stands today. as widely reported, the misconduct involved 11 agents and officers who arrived in cartagena the morning of wednesday, april 11, and were off duty the rest of the day. the men went out in groups of a 2, 3 com and four to four differ
, becoming the first openly gay man to run for elected office in the entire united states. 1961. [applause] as he explained last night during the presentation of his lifetime achievement award, the establishment at the time was so scared that he could very well win that many candidates were recruited for the very purpose of keeping him from being elected to the san francisco board of supervisors. at the end of the day, in a field of 32 candidates, he came in ninth place in 1961 and almost won the seat to the very body. in 1962, he co-founded the tavern guild, the first gay business association in the country. in 1963, he felt to find the -- helped found of the society for individual rights that sponsored both social and political functions for the gay community as well as help educate gateman about their rights if arrested or harassed by the police. he assumed the moniker her royal majesty, and prince of san francisco, jose the first, the widow norton, an homage to the mob -- a much to joshua norton who declared himself the emperor of the united states and protector of mexico in 1859. jose
in the history of the united states in the white house. they are really em em player. the way they behave with their children tore me is admiral. there's a great family. and romney probably has a great family. but family is not -- >> all i meant to say, there are two things that is animate his life and he's uncomfortable talking about both of them. if you're running a presidential campaign and your candidate talk in a human compelling way about the two most important aspects of their life which is to say creating profitable businesses and his church, you have a huge strategic problem on your hands. you need your candidate to be able to talk about things that animate him. he's afraid of those things whether he's personally uncomfortable with them or the politics is a problem for him -- >> did you hear maggie haberman just saying correct? >> i love it when she does it. it makes me feel so affirmed. >> let me just -- mr. lipton as we talk about source material, whether it's the mormon church, the things one reads, the influences creatively on one's life are things to call upon. mitt romney's
pleasure to introduce and certainly an honor to introduce the vice president of the united states, joe biden. [cheers and applause] >> thanks, y'all, very, very much. molly, thank you. [cheers and applause] i'm so glad i'm molly's friend. thank you very much. now, i don't know if you have seats behind you, but if you do, please take your seats. you don't? i see some over here. yes, we will. ladies and gentlemen, -- [chanting] well, i think we can too. folks, it's really -- ladies and gentlemen, it's a pleasure to be with you, and whomever is chanting. i -- folks, i'd like to, especially for those of you standing, not make this too long. what i'd like to do is -- folks, i, i'd like to have a straightforward discussion with you as straight as i can be and make as it plain as i can, and i'd like to get right to the heart of the matter. you all know what we inherited, and how and what governor romney's line of argument is. he says -- he says that since we've gotten in office, things have gotten much worse. he says our policies are the problem. well, as former senator pat and good phren of
the with the government as a part of the united states can continue to lead in the clean energy sector. as all of the witnesses today point out in their written testimony there's a global race to produce the next generation of energy technologies, the prices on our electricity bills or at the pump do not always reflected our current energy system is very expensive, and the costs all of us pay in national energy and climate and economic security are unacceptably high, and it's likely the fast-growing economies throughout the developing world will be looking to a new generation of technologies that of lead these costs. it's not only a concern about costs and their effect on future generations, it's also a significant commercial opportunity for u.s. entrepreneurs. fortunately, developing new technologies has historically been a great strength in the united states to come and as a witness is pointing of in the area where the government has been an effective partner although there has been a broad consensus in congress in the past and favor of investing in these emerging technologies we've been sen
the united states and the war in afghanistan. >> he will continue west to the golden state in just a few hours for some big-ticket fund- raisers. his trip comes at a time when technology giants are struggling in the silicon valley. cable baron is here with the economic highs and lows surrounding the president's visit. >> you cannot park here or here, or here because the president is coming to town. >> it is not everyday that the president of united states comes and discovers our city. >> redwood city has not seen a presidential visit in decades. >> i think it is wonderful that he has chosen us to come visit. >> redwood city has been a community all by itself, and recently they have done a major remodel downtown. and this just as icing to the cake. >> businesses are shutting down early and a detailed security plan is in place. >> we want to make sure everyone enjoys it whether it is a demonstrator or just someone wants to come down with their family and see what is going on. we just want to provide a safe environment for everyone. >> redwood city is one of three stops along his fund-raisi
attention from the united states as a possible way of adding pressure on iran. we have a report from islamabad. >> reporter: this involves construction of an 1,800-long kilometer pipeline to supply natural gas from turkmenistan to afghanistan, pakistan, and india. turkmenistan has some of the world's largest reserves of natural gas. u.s. firms initially drew up similar plans in the 1990s. asian development bank joined in 2002 with a feasibility study. but the project among the deteriorating situation in afghanistan. they met in turkmenistan on wednesday and agreed to quickly proceed with the plan. the agreement is due to last for 30 years, and cause higher prices for the gas. the agreement is likely to attract the attention of the united states. pakistan is building another pipeline to receive gas from iran. the u.s. is trying to isolate iran because of concerns about its nuclear program. a pipeline from turkmenistan could become a way to bring pressure to iran. security concerns on the project remain because the situation in afghanistan is still unstable. pakistan is suffering from
. what has he done as the president of the united states over the past four years? has he established the revitalization he promised to bring? did he hold unemployment over 8%? it has been 39 months. that hasn't happened. >> in that interview with time, go have romney says his years with bain taught him a lot about why companies succeed and fail. in each of his answers to four questions, he also took time to critique the president's economic credentials. >> this is a president who spends his time blaming other people for the fact that he has been unsuccessful in turning around this economy. i think the reason you are seeing across the country, people saying they would like to try someone new, because they believe this president, while he may be a nice guy, is simply not up to the task of helping guide an economy. >> you are looking at a live picture right here. that's president obama speaking at a fund-raiser just moments ago. the president responded saying governor romney has drawn the wrong lessons from his time running bain capital. the exchanges are getting more personal as the st
somebody would want to compromise the security of the president of the united states, with knowing that secret service agents are in town and have a predilection to partying would try to engage them and learn information about the president's path. >> two of the six secret service agents who offered to resign after the colombia mess, we are told, are now fighting to hold on to their jobs. so secret service is going to go after their security clearances. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel live on capitol hill. now to our good friends and trusted allies in pakistan. case in point, the man who helped hunt down the world's most wanted terrorist. he just got a reward from the pakistanis. 33 years in prison. that's the sentence that pakistani officials who just ordered for a doctor who helped the united states track down usama bin laden. the doctor's crime? conspiring against the state. he ran a fake vaccination program to collect d.n.a. intelligence teams to make sure bin laden was at that compound. the pentagon points out he was working against al qaeda. not against pakistan. and the senio
. he was a united states senator for 4 years, two of which he spent running for president. we would be remiss if we didn't mention he was a best-selling author, where he admitted to doing drugs and drinking regularly and doing drugs enthusiastically. but he doesn't want the voters to focus on that. he would rather try to discredit his rival's hearty credentials. mitt romney, head of bain capital which helped to create hundreds of companies. and romney was called on to save the 2002 winter olympics in salt lake city and he went on to serve as the governor of massachusetts. as president obama, i don't think this would be the battle i would be rage waging with mitt romney. joining me is stuart varny and co-host of "the five," dana perino. [chuckles] >> go on. >> sean: we are tough on you. >> i don't understand mind. >> sean: the job as the president -- he goes into class warfare. >> he does. impoliceent in the comments yesterday in the press conference and the campaign is that if you elect a president romney, then all of the things that people who rely on the government for will go awa
the tallest dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous for. >> the wood you see in the board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this building did not all speak the same language. and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world today. >> tonight, we paid for the two teachers, especially those in sa
:00. >> there is a troubling now warning that the united states could be on the verge of another recession. it could fall off a fiscal cliff. joining us live is peter dues see. he has all of the details and his new warnings come from the government. >> good morning, heather. the united states is heading toward a fiscal cliff and will fall off it on january 1st if the tax cuts are allowed to expire and automatic cuts are kicked in. they couldn't make a deal on what they wanted to cut so their punishment was to establish steep over a trillion dollar automatic cuts for things that are tough and controversial. the first 100 billion or so would be cut. these things would make the economy shrink by 1.3 percent in the first half of next year. that they say adds up to a recession. majority leader harry reid says we can avoid this fiscal flip tomorrow if republicans would agree to extend the tax cut which would give us ample time to deal with the other challenges facing congress at the end of the year. after the 1.3 percent contract the economy would rebound in the second half of 2014. they are scoffing at the idea t
working so hard? >> well, i think there are a number of reasons for it. first, the united states congress wanted to hold a hearing on this issue. and the secretary and the chairman and other u.s. officials believe that it's very important to share with congress our perspective on the law of the sea convention. it's important to, with the establishment of regular international regimes governing maritime activities by nations, to include militaries around the world. and every time we have the opportunity to signal our support for this convention, we will. >> has congress signaled to you that maybe there's movement there and that you might actually get something through now? >> i grew up in this town, so i've long since offered predictions on what congress may or may not do. i don't have any particular signals, tom, about what they may do with respect to this convention. but we hope that it is eventually adopted by the united states. larry. >> the armed services committee yesterday released its report on counterfeit electronic parts that have made their way into the defense procurement line,
the united states. my childhood sweetheart. a man that all of you know is "outfront." >>> i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, dive bombing the carcass. it's just an image that makes me think of the field growing up, dead deer, entrails everywhere, buzzards coming in with their ugly little red bobbles. that's what it looks like for facebook. at least three lawsuits filed in connection to the facebook ipo. plus investigations by the securities and exchange commission and the massachusetts secretary of the commonwealth. of course, public embarrassment. headlines like these on the front pages. the best one today went to cnn money. bumpy start just got a little worse. inside facebook's fumble was from "the wall street journal" and "the washington post" called it a debacle. here's where the stock closed today, at $32 a share. down $10 from where it opened on ipo morning at $42. that means it's lost a quarter of its value since it opened. that is pretty stunning. and you say how? how could one of the most anticipated offerings in american history, and the biggest in terms of size in thi
into the united states. you walk into that vitamin store, nutrition store, you think everything in there has been tested? no. virtually nothing has been tested. do you still have a right to buy it? yes, and i will fight to defend your right to buy t but i also think we have a responsibility, too. if people get sick and die because of a dietary supplement, we ought to do something about it. it starts with registration, simple registration. so the food and drug administration knows what's out there. a few years ago there was a picture from the baltimore -- there was a pitcher from the baltimore orioles who in an effort to lose a few pounds took a dietary supplement that included a compound called ephedra, a stimulant. he died as a result of that compound that he took. we ended up basically banning ephedra from dietary supplements as a result of it. i think it is important for the food and drug administration to have a list of the dietary supplements, the ingredients in when they're selling and a copy of the label. and some future ephedra, some future compound that we find that can be dangerous can
of the united states. -- of the university. and he said in one email, isn't one of the alleged rape victims, is she violating the code of conduct in any way by publicly talking about this rape? and that's one that stuck out the most. and there's another in which he's talking about -- they are using the word gang rape to describe what happened to some of these women. and he says, why aren't we using the term "date rape" instead? >> when you started to read these emails, what was your -- what did you think about this? and you had obviously realized you were onto something that a lot of people had assumed for quite some time. >> right. there's been issues with the football players. you know, i went to campus last month, and a lot of the people around campus are saying, there's a sense of swagger about this football team that they are kind of untouchable. and some people get the feeling that the university is trying to protect them. and the feeling i get is that the university is desperate to shape the image of these sexual assault allegations. like many universities, they have been trying to r
is here, united states secretary of the navy, he has had a long and varied career as a politician, diplomat and businessman, he served as governor of mississippi from 1988 to 1992, he was also former ambassador to saudi arabia and ceo of a manufacturing company. he played the pivotal role in u.s. defense policy in the obama shifts its focus to the asia pacific region i am pleased to have him here on this program for the first time, welcome. >> thank you, charlie, i am glad to be here. >> rose: we now know that this president has announced clearly the kind of shift to asia. how does that affect the navy and its role and its significance? >> well, this new defense strategy which the president announced in january, and which he was in intimately involved in crafting, and had a all of the joint chiefs, all the service secretary, secretary of defense very involved in this, it is mainly a maritime strategy and focuses on the western pacific and focuses on the arabian gulf region, both of which are maritime, entities, and it places, i think, additional responsibility on the navy and the
and defend the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that will bear -- to the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california. that i take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. i will faithfully discharge the duties upon which i am about to enter during such time as i hold the office of -- for the city and county of san francisco. congratulations and thank you. [applause]
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